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Any road rules experts who can clarify this?

Post by Bunya » 15 February 13 7:40 pm

I was looking at a possible spot for a (non-urban) roadside cache, but I decided against it as I thought the roadside verge was too narrow for safe parking.
I also noticed that the road had a solid single centre line for some distance either side of GZ and I remembered that I had done a cache a few years ago where another finder had berated the CO for placing it alongside a section of road with a solid centre line. These other finders said it was illegal to park on a section of road where there is a solid centre line.
I know it is illegal to overtake or do a U-turn where there is a solid centre line (and I’ve confirmed that in the SA road rules), but I can’t find any reference to it being illegal to park in such a situation.
Can anyone clarify this?

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Post by Yurt » 15 February 13 8:03 pm

I do know of it but don't know the precise law - it is something to do with how far your car is from an unbroken line - 3 metres? So if the road is actually wide enough you would be okay.

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Post by caughtatwork » 15 February 13 8:57 pm

Each state is likely to be different.

SA:
http://www.mylicence.sa.gov.au/the_onli ... ok/parking
unless permitted by a parking sign, leave a minimum of three metres between your vehicle and any continuous dividing line, dividing strip (Example 48) or, if on a narrow road, the other side of the road
I am not an expert.

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Post by WazzaAndWenches » 15 February 13 8:59 pm

From vicroads.vic.gov.au ...

Single continuous dividing lines
A single continuous dividing line means you can cross it to enter or leave the road, but you must not overtake or U-turn. You must not park opposite the dividing line unless there is at least three metres of clearance between your vehicle and the dividing line unless otherwise indicated on a parking sign.


I'd be very surprised if the rules in SA are any different although I haven't found the relevant rule on the SA roads web site here.

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Post by Bunya » 15 February 13 9:06 pm

Thanks for the clarifications given above.
Your references are a lot clearer than the one I was using - the 357 page PDF of "SA Road Rules"!

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Post by Laighside Legends » 16 February 13 12:04 am

Bunya wrote:I also noticed that the road had a solid single centre line for some distance either side of GZ...
I've never seen a single solid line on any road in SA. They are always double solid lines.

So where exactly was this? :-k

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Post by shrek4 » 16 February 13 8:52 am

Laighside Legends wrote:
Bunya wrote:I also noticed that the road had a solid single centre line for some distance either side of GZ...
I've never seen a single solid line on any road in SA. They are always double solid lines.

So where exactly was this? :-k
Really? I see them all the time.

Mostly in the metro area. E.g. Brunel Drive Modbury Heights.

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Post by Bunya » 16 February 13 10:32 am

Laighside Legends wrote:
Bunya wrote:I also noticed that the road had a solid single centre line for some distance either side of GZ...
I've never seen a single solid line on any road in SA. They are always double solid lines.

So where exactly was this? :-k
Have a look at the Google Maps street view image of the road near S 32 54.860 E 137 37.620

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Post by Laighside Legends » 16 February 13 11:23 am

Oh, so there is. I must pay more attention next time I'm driving around...

So what's the difference between single and double solid lines?
Bunya wrote:Have a look at the Google Maps street view image of the road near S 32 54.860 E 137 37.620
It seems a bit odd that you can't overtake there - It looks like a nice straight flat road...

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Post by caughtatwork » 16 February 13 11:29 am

Laighside Legends wrote:So what's the difference between single and double solid lines?
Time. The Victorian road rules changed in 2009 with respect to solid single white line. They will not waste the time and money to repaint if they can just change the rule.

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Post by gmj3191 » 16 February 13 11:52 am

Laighside Legends wrote:Oh, so there is. I must pay more attention next time I'm driving around...

So what's the difference between single and double solid lines?
Bunya wrote:Have a look at the Google Maps street view image of the road near S 32 54.860 E 137 37.620
It seems a bit odd that you can't overtake there - It looks like a nice straight flat road...
It's right on a corner for heaven's sake, with trees obscuring the view.
Also, the Google car was there during perfect visibility.

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Post by Bundyrumandcoke » 18 February 13 9:24 am

The difference between single and double continuous centre lines is, as previously stated, a single continuous line may be crossed to enter, or exit a property. Whereas double white continuous centre lines must not be crossed FOR ANY REASON.

In Qld, it even extends to painted traffic islands. Painted traffic islands surrounded by a single continuous line may be driven over. If its surrounded by double continuous lines, it cannot be driven over.

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Post by Cheesy pigs » 19 February 13 10:09 am

caughtatwork wrote:Each state is likely to be different.

Road rules were unified nationwide in 1999. All states will have their version of the road rules regulations on their state legislation website.

I do know a single unbroken line can only be crossed to enter or leave a side street or driveway. I'm not aware of a parking restriction.

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Post by Freddo » 19 February 13 5:10 pm

In Burnside South Australia if you park within 3m of a single continuous white line you will get a $75 parking fine. :shock:

Near Amphibian central there is pole with a sign marking the end of the No Parking zone. The single continuous white line extends for another 20m into the "parking" zone. Space for 3 cars to park and get a fine each.

It's called a Cash Cow. ](*,)

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Post by mark_rattigan » 19 February 13 7:55 pm

Bundyrumandcoke wrote:double white continuous centre lines must not be crossed FOR ANY REASON.
Not quite - and likewise with national unification.
In WA it is quite legal to do a U-Turn over double white lines.

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