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by Laighside Legends » 07 March 12 4:24 pm
This has probably been asked elsewhere but...
Does anyone know what type of plastic sistemas are made of?
Or more to the point what glue sticks to them well?
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by maccamob » 07 March 12 4:47 pm
Laighside Legends wrote:This has probably been asked elsewhere but...
Does anyone know what type of plastic sistemas are made of?
Or more to the point what glue sticks to them well?
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They have the Recycling Code 5, which is for polypropylene. Very difficult to glue, and generally requires surface pre-treatment (same applies to painting). I have used Loctite 770 Activator followed by Loctite 401 Instant Glue with moderate success, but they're not cheap. Google 'glue polypropylene' for a host of other suggestions.
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by the farmers 5 » 07 March 12 5:00 pm
Laighside Legends wrote:This has probably been asked elsewhere but...
Does anyone know what type of plastic sistemas are made of?
Or more to the point what glue sticks to them well?
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There are very few glues that will work with them . Try the one maccamob has suggested but things like araldite will work for only a little while.
Then,what tends to happen over the months is the containers flex a bit here and there and the glue all just comes away in one big heap.
If you are thinking of glueing a large magnet to the inside base, try Dave's suggestion and then place insulation tape over the lot as it tends to flex with the sistema over the years of use it will get.
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by noikmeister » 07 March 12 7:14 pm
the farmers 5 wrote:
If you are thinking of glueing a large magnet to the inside base, try Dave's suggestion and then place insulation tape over the lot as it tends to flex with the sistema over the years of use it will get.
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I just used duct tape. Had the cache in place for well over a year and it was still well affixed when I replace the container with a clear one.
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by Captain Terror » 07 March 12 8:46 pm
They're free from BPA, so a tick from me.
As for paint, the $3 a can pressure packs work a treat for me.
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by caughtatwork » 07 March 12 8:52 pm
What are you trying to do?
Attach a magnet?
Stick a frog to the lid?
We may have alternative suggestions for fixings.
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by Laighside Legends » 07 March 12 10:30 pm
I don't want to give it away but tape won't work - nor do I intend to paint it.
Google seems to say hot glue is the way to go - anyone had experience with this?
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by Papa Bear_Left » 07 March 12 10:57 pm
Hot glue is pretty awesome in general (I've got little projects around that are almost MADE of the stuff!) and works quite well on plastic boxes for awhile. I used it to glue some camo onto a Lock'n'Lock (probably same material, just better design) and it didn't come unstuck; the camo just slowly broke away.
If you can, though, mechanical fastening is really the only way to be secure. Bolt stuff on and then seal the bolt-holes with hot glue. You can even glue camo stuff to something easier to stick to, then bolt that substrate to the box.
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by quiet1_au » 07 March 12 11:18 pm
Beware the napalm effect hot-melt glue can have... Also, not too sure how it goes with adhesion to a slick surface - plastic might melt and bond better than other hard surfaces though.
Scuffing up the surface with sandpaper can help adhesion. As my repair of The Sistema Twins a contact-type adhesive seemed to work well, but as for how it goes over the longer term who knows?
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by The Tardis Trio » 08 March 12 8:08 pm
Laighside Legends wrote:Or more to the point what glue sticks to them well?
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I've just bought some of this (for a cache I'm making) from Bunnings, apparently it works well for PE & PP plastics like sistema's
http://www.selleys.com.au/adhesives/hou ... stics-glue
I haven't tried it yet, but it better work
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by Browngang » 09 March 12 8:23 pm
I've tried the above, but the main problem with plastice is the flexibility of it. Superglue products set stiff, with no flexibility. If it is rigid enough, use plumbers primer and glue, or if it is a bit more flexible use sikaflex. Sikaflex goes on like thick honey and sets like s*@t to a blanket, try that.
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by PacketStorm4 » 10 March 12 10:39 pm
I've used liquid nails in the past which seems to have done a pretty good job on it.
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by Damo. » 11 March 12 10:56 am
PacketStorm4 wrote:I've used liquid nails in the past which seems to have done a pretty good job on it.
Works for me too. Just scuff up the plastic where the glue is fixing with some coarse sandpaper first and clean and dry it.
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by noikmeister » 11 March 12 12:54 pm
PacketStorm4 wrote:I've used liquid nails in the past which seems to have done a pretty good job on it.
Liquid nails sticks to just about anything, but it isn't weather-proof. If it is a damp environment it lets go eventually.
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by budgietas » 11 March 12 7:25 pm
I don't know about anyone else, but I keep thinking "sugar and spice and all things nice" each time I read this question....
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