Sez you!Philipp wrote:Nope. there are no exceptions.MtnLioness wrote:...Bar some exceptions ~
I think MtnLioness is on the money here.
Sez you!Philipp wrote:Nope. there are no exceptions.MtnLioness wrote:...Bar some exceptions ~
I think your a bit over the top here, to be able to say you didn't find something means you must have actually started looking for it. Otherwise you would have to log a DNF on any cache you have ever been near or driven past.Philipp wrote:Nope. there are no exceptions.MtnLioness wrote:...Bar some exceptions ~
If our trip was anything to go by I'd say unfortunately yes...Bewilderbeest wrote:but I'm expecting to pick up a few more on my upcoming Qld trip
I do, if I have been back 3 times then I think it is important that the owner knows it as it may influence their maintenance decision.Richary wrote:That said, I won't generally post multiple DNFs on the one cache even if I have had a few looks at different times.
I hope you don't do this for our logs? We seem to be able to not find them almost as good as being able to find them some days. I learnt a long time ago that it also doesn't pay to proclaim in your log that the cache absolutely mustn't be there as more often than not the next cacher comes along and makes what they log as an easy find.Richary wrote:So I won't race over to Manly just to check it on the basis of 1 DNF, if I see 2-3 in a row, especially from experienced finders then I will make it a priority to get over there on the next free weekend.
I can't see the issue with logging these? How can it "ruin" your stats? Most of the GSAK based stats programs don't even track DNF's! I like the fact that I can look back and say I had a crack at those caches and they beat me!pprass wrote:I know some cachers don't post DNF's as it ruins their stats (amongst other things!) so I'm thinking if it was acceptable or common to go back and change the status of your log, maybe more would be willing to post DNF's
I DNF any cache for which a search was not successful, regardless of how long or how much effort I put into it. The log often indicates why I didn't find it. This is as much for the cache owner and other cachers who may be relying on the Logs for some assistance. A straight DNF tells them nothing.MtnLioness wrote:I agree that if you actually did some kind of search and did not come up with the goods, that warrants a DNF.
Bar some exceptions ~Pretty much agree with MtnLioness. A driveby in a car I don't think has any bearing on a cache search unless it's a multi to which you have had to drive from the original co-ordinates in that instance I will log a DNF especially if I ended up somewhere that the cache is unlikely to be,If you just looked out your car window as you slowed down near to where you would park and decided that getting out wasn't going to be an option.
Log a DNF on these with the clarifier that I couldn't get the cache due to muggle activity.If you got muggled out.
I have no qualms about logging a DNF on these along with a maintenance request and also a PM to Owner with any other necessary details; details you probably don't want to put up for all cachers as it would give cache away. Further If I think that the cache may have been disturbed the area is being destroyed or if there are other issues. i.e. the area is unsafe (sharps and the like) I will PM the owner, but DNF goes upIf the container is obviously destroyed (there is evidence strewn about) as that simply needs a Needs maintenance log.
If you really just think you weren't looking hard enough and decide to come back relatively soon-ish. This last one only just gets the exception rule sometimes for me, it depends on a few things like time alloted to searching, weather or just over it for the day and I know I'll be back in the area some other time.
I can sympathise with this! There are just the odd one or five caches where I've had this problem (brain not working). Maybe there ought to be such a log type and you could change the DNF to DOH when you realised how stupid you were.Apty wrote:Following my recent post, I looked for a multi in Victor Harbor yesterday and logged the DNF.
Today, I looked at the cache info again and discovered I had used S coord solution as E and vice versa. There should be a DOH! log type!!!
I don't recall you having any DNFs on mine, then again I haven't really got that many hidden where you are likely to be caching. I know that experienced cachers can and will miss them occasionally (heck after 2700+ finds I should be better at it than I am). It partly depends on the log as well, if people detail that they spent a fair amount of time and I know them it is more likely to ring alarm bells than someone with 10 under their belt. That said I probably still wouldn't make a special effort to check until a couple more DNF logs, though if I was passing for other reasons I might well call in.Big Matt and Shell wrote:If our trip was anything to go by I'd say unfortunately yes...[/quote[Bewilderbeest wrote:but I'm expecting to pick up a few more on my upcoming Qld trip
I notice an increase in DNF ratio whenever I travel to a new area. Slightly different hiding styles maybe from what I am used to, apart from the different vegetation.
I guess it depends. If I have done multiple attempts in between others finding it, and haven't noticed anything new that is worth noting. So if it's just recently been found, and I still can't find it, I figure it is probably still there but I am still just as blind as I was last visit.I do, if I have been back 3 times then I think it is important that the owner knows it as it may influence their maintenance decision.Richary wrote:That said, I won't generally post multiple DNFs on the one cache even if I have had a few looks at different times.
I hope you don't do this for our logs? We seem to be able to not find them almost as good as being able to find them some days. I learnt a long time ago that it also doesn't pay to proclaim in your log that the cache absolutely mustn't be there as more often than not the next cacher comes along and makes what they log as an easy find.Richary wrote:So I won't race over to Manly just to check it on the basis of 1 DNF, if I see 2-3 in a row, especially from experienced finders then I will make it a priority to get over there on the next free weekend.
We reckon that an audit should be conducted on this amazing feat! Would all cache owners that have had a Freddo DNF log please go out and check that Freddo hasn't placed a note in the log bookFreddo wrote:5 DNF's today. That brings the Freddo total to 678 DNFs!!!
For me yes - a cache to schedule for 5:00 am or to place on the ignore list -especially if near playground equipmentRichary wrote: Would 10 DNF "drove up, park full of muggles, drove on without stopping" logs have been of any real use?