Taz wrote:caughtatwork wrote: That may help, even if you can't control the cache, you can move it out of you way.
So does that mean if another clan controls a Moveable cache I can't take control of it by finding it for the first time? That was really my question, control for T caches changes depending on points, are moveables the same?
You may be able to, depending on how many points are already up against the cache. All caches for the game are treated equally.
Say a cache has Griffin with 10 points, Cerberus with 12 points and Minotaur with 8 points. It would be controlled by Cerberus as the clan with the highest points on the cache. Assume the cache is a 1/1 and you find it. Whether you are finding it the first time or not, automatically your clan (I believe you're a Minotaur) allocates 1 point to the cache. Now the cache is Griffin with 10 points, Cerberus with 12 points and Minotaur with 9 points. Cerberus remains in control.
However ... you can allocate additional DZPoints from your bank. As long as you are within 7 days of your find, you can go to your points allocating tool.
http://geocaching.com.au/my/dragonzone/allocate You need to match or beat the 12 Cerberus points. So you may decide to allocate an additional 4 points taking Minotaur from 9 to 13 points. As Minotaur now has the most points on the cache, Minotaur will control the cache. Depending on what zone it's in and what other caches are in the same zone, you may take control of the zone.
As an added tactic though, say you DON'T want to allocate any additional points. For whatever reason you're saving your dZPoints for a rainy day. Now the cache is Griffin with 10 points, Cerberus with 12 points and Minotaur with 9 points (remember your clan automatically allocated 1 point). So the status of the cache remains with
Cerberus. That doesn't mean you should despair. If your clan is only 1 cache away from controlling a zone and that stupid Cerberus cache is the deciding cache, move it along to another zone. When it exits the original zone, the zone will recalculate and (hopefully, maybe) your clan will gain control of the zone. Remember though when it enters the new zone the zone will recalculate too, so if you're looking to move a cache out of the way, send it to a zone already controlled by Cerberus OR send it a zone where (say) Griffin has control by 1 cache over Cerberus. By you moving the cache INTO that zone, you'd be annoying Griffin by making them share the zone with Cerberus, leaving the original zone in control of Minotaur.
The tactic is not always about finding and allocating points to control a cache and / or a zone. Sometimes the tactic can be to move caches your clan does not control OUT of your desired zone, leaving your clan with the most controlled caches in that zone and annoying the heck out of the other clans.