RANT: How hard is it to read a TB objectives?

[Mind Socket]

With those criteria you may as well have said their name to some other qlders and as such, is not very discreet. By all means have your rant, just keep names (or identities) out of it!!

It's not hard to figure out and impossible to keep names out of a topic like this. I think the issue was broached without pointing fingers and with a reasonable level of respect. I still have no idea who it is, because I didn't go looking.

- Rog

[Map Monkey]

Including the cachers location and their stats IS pointing fingers....particularly in our state where there are few people in this category. Most people would not know who they were, except for the extra detail. Sure we can go to the TB in question etc etc yet I choose not to. An alternative option could be " I recently had a case of an relatively experienced interstate cacher who removed my TB outside its location......."

I don't think your tactic will help in this case....we may loose another cacher due to some issue which can be resolved in a civilised manner.

You seem to have a valid point with regards to what could/should happen with your TB, I just don't like the way it has been dealt with.

Let the person have a chance responding to your email before jumping to Any conclusions.

My thoughts.....

Agsmky

[Map Monkey]

Including the cachers location and their stats IS pointing fingers....particularly in our state where there are few people in this category. Most people would not know who they were, except for the extra detail. Sure we can go to the TB in question etc etc yet I choose not to. An alternative option could be " I recently had a case of an relatively experienced interstate cacher who removed my TB outside its location......."

I don't think your tactic will help in this case....we may loose another cacher due to some issue which can be resolved in a civilised manner.

You seem to have a valid point with regards to what could/should happen with your TB, I just don't like the way it has been dealt with.

Let the person have a chance responding to your email before jumping to Any conclusions.

My thoughts.....

Agsmky

[Aushiker]

Let the person have a chance responding to your email before jumping to Any conclusions.

My thoughts.....

Agsmky

mmm the cacher states in the bug log and I guote "Retrieved. Will be taking it back home to Brisbane."

What do you think the cacher is saying? What conclusion would you draw?

I was brought up to take statements like "Will be taking it back home to Brisbane" as what someone is going to to, you know if it sounds reasonable to take it at face value. Maybe they do things differently in Queensland.


Andrew

[Map Monkey]

Andrew,

I thought I was just highlighting the obvious

For the record, I don't have net access at the moment and have no intention on checking on who they are anyway. My posting is based on local knowledge of the caching scene there, and not necessarily searching for assailants through GC. No you wouldn't be jumping to any conclusions

I hope you sort this out with the cacher in question, as I'm sure they just didn't read the tag?

Agsmky

[Aushiker]

I hope you sort this out with the cacher in question, as I'm sure they just didn't read the tag?
Agsmky

Or the objectives on the web page. I hope you are right, but they have logged in since the emails where sent and no response. They indicate in other logs they are here on work travel so may not be checking their emails.

If nothing else they may place it in a cache in Queensland and I can get someone else to retrieve it.

Regards
Andrew

[Map Monkey]

You may be right there, as a current traveller, it can be hard (if not impossible) to access email (especially work email), compared to gaining net access at kiosks etc. Not everyone uses hotmail, etc

If it ends up in Qld, we will no doubt send it back


Agsmky

[Aushiker]

If it ends up in Qld, we will no doubt send it back
Agsmky

That would be nice indeed

Andrew

[Mind Socket]

I'm sure it will work out fine, but it serves as a good reminder to everyone to pay attention.

- Rog

[Suitman]

I must be naive. I thought the reason to have TB's in this geocaching world of ours is to allow an owner to set a task for a TB and have some (outside) interest in following it in it's (eventual) accomplishment of that task, using the community spirit of fellow geocachers to help. Following on from that - we have been able to have TB races around the state / nation / world and so on. What's the point if all you are doing this is for the numbers? (I could just hack that)

I must be naive.

Repeat as necessary

[Mind Socket]

Suitman, you're spot on with the reason for TBs, but who said anything about the cause of this particular topic being people doing it for "the numbers"?

- Rog

[Suitman]

I thought that if "I don't care about where the TB is heading" then "I must be doing it for some other reason" applies, and so (possibly) just to make my TB numbers on GC look good. <br>again ... "I must be naive" naa .. make that stupid.

[Richary]

I thought that if "I don't care about where the TB is heading" then "I must be doing it for some other reason" applies, and so (possibly) just to make my TB numbers on GC look good. <br>again ... "I must be naive" naa .. make that stupid.

<p>In that case grab it and return it to the same cache

[caughtatwork]

I thought that if "I don't care about where the TB is heading" then "I must be doing it for some other reason" applies, and so (possibly) just to make my TB numbers on GC look good. <br>again ... "I must be naive" naa .. make that stupid.

Not the situation in this case being discussed, but in general you only find out about the goal when you get home. If that's the case, then you may or may not be able to achieve the goal any further.

eg. I picked up a TB.
No goal attached.
Got home (west from the cache) and found out the goal was to ONLY travel EAST.
So the only option for me was to find a cache FURTHER EAST from the last place I found it.
Sorry, not going to happen anytime in the near future.

I now have a choice. Leave the TB in a cache which means it's travelled WEST and bear the brunt of the TB owner for not carrying out the goal --OR-- hold onto the TB until I CAN get further east and bear the brunt of the TB owner for hanging onto the bug for months.

This does not apply to TB's that have goals WITH the TB, but some goals get torn off, wet, unreadable over time. If this is the case and the owner doesn't know that the goals aren't there anymore and of course the finder doesn't know there are supposed to be goals attached to the TB, then what are you going to do.

I take the bug and if I can help it, I will, if not then it will find itself in another cache, possibly against the goals.

I do not release TB's with goals and then get all stroppy when they're not followed. I trust my luck with the wind and hope that the TB MOVES rather than sits in a cache waiting for someone that can help it achieve a goal.

I appreciate the unique nature of the TB being discussed but once you let something go in the wild, stuff will happen that you have little to no control over and you I believe you must resign yourself to that fact.

[Webguy]

My wife released her first bug, goal, not to travel out of aus. First pickup, straight to the usa. Within 3 or 4 cache drops, it had disappeared and nobody wanted to own up to having taken it.