What to use for a logbook for a waterbottle cache container?

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What to use for a logbook for a waterbottle cache container?

Post by Kunama » 08 December 16 6:59 pm

I have a bunch of metal water bottles.
Being a water bottle, it is inherently watertight. I'm thinking it'd make a pretty decent cache container.
However, it's ~220mm tall, and the opening is pretty small - 27mm.

So, I can roll up some A4 pieces of paper, and they'll fit just fine.

However, I am foreseeing people having problems getting such a log out of the bottle.
I can put it into the lid to start with (like one must with nano logs), but eventually someone's going to just shove it into the bottle proper, and then it's good luck to the next finder #-o

Furthermore, I want to be able to have swaps and a pen/cil. (Finding a decent-sized container with no swaps is just disappointing, but to also omit a writing tool? That's crap and I expect better of myself.)
A log of this size would take up most of the room in the container.

Any ideas? Advice for/against this type of cache container? Anything else?
Discuss please! :)

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Re: What to use for a logbook for a waterbottle cache container?

Post by MavEtJu » 08 December 16 7:49 pm

24 pill containers, with the log in only one.

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Re: What to use for a logbook for a waterbottle cache container?

Post by 2y'stassies » 08 December 16 11:19 pm

If you get a piece of tubing just smaller in diameter than the water bottle mouth and put your log sheet and pencil in the tube it is easy for the finder to remove and replace and protects the log from slipping sideways and being damaged during removal.
PS not my idea but a useful BobfromElsewhere (more commonly referred to as BFE) trick.

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Re: What to use for a logbook for a waterbottle cache container?

Post by ziggiau » 09 December 16 2:35 pm

How about putting the log and writing implement in a large plastic bag that when replaced into the container has enough volume that it won't get shoved in too far and the bag gives you something to grab onto to yank it out again.

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Re: What to use for a logbook for a waterbottle cache container?

Post by caughtatwork » 09 December 16 2:50 pm

Don't do that. It will get shoved in too far. It will get torn when it gets pulled out. It will turn to rubbish within a few finds and remain as rubbish for ever. A container where the mouth is narrower than the container is never a great idea as the logs are inevitably not replaced correctly and end up more irritating than a nano.

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Re: What to use for a logbook for a waterbottle cache container?

Post by MavEtJu » 09 December 16 3:18 pm

Put it in the lid....

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Post by canary » 09 December 16 3:36 pm

MavEtJu wrote:Put it in the lid....
I agree!

Stick a bison tube to the lid.

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Re: What to use for a logbook for a waterbottle cache container?

Post by Kunama » 09 December 16 4:06 pm

MavEtJu wrote:24 pill containers, with the log in only one.
I have this image in my head of those little flat cylindrical containers typically used to hold lip balm
And a cacher shaking the bottle at night while it's raining, making the most awful racket, muttering to themselves, "What is all this, why are there so many, crap another one rolled down the hill, oh my god where is the log?!"
:twisted:
I think this one would be best staying in my imagination... :P

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Re: What to use for a logbook for a waterbottle cache container?

Post by Happy Chappies » 09 December 16 4:09 pm

This is what I'd do:

- Cut a piece of thin timber dowel to the same height as the bottle (without lid)
- Stick the logsheet to the dowel and roll it up like a scroll
- Secure with a little rubber band
- Pop that in the bottle for easy retrieval

You're not going to get many swaps in that container anyway. Even if it's big enough, the opening won't allow for anything significant to be popped in except the usual detritus of calling cards and 5c coins.

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Re: What to use for a logbook for a waterbottle cache container?

Post by Papa Bear_Left » 10 December 16 11:46 am

First thought: use them as water bottles and buy some open-mouthed thermos containers instead. I know, you want to use what you already have, but not every item makes a good cache container...

Pity that the neck is just a few mm too small for a 35mm film canister to fit.

Second thought: waterproof match containers should fit through the neck and provide a second waterproof barrier and will fit a micro-style log.

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