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Re: The Future of Caching?

Posted: 19 June 11 4:10 pm
by Alansee
There are three Challenge caches in Wollongong which require you to have found every cache within 5, 10, and 20 km of your home. A bit hard for those who live in big cities!

However, challenge caches was not at all the point of my original post, so I will open up another post to make my point better, rather than stop this useful discussion..

Re: The Future of Caching?

Posted: 20 June 11 10:07 am
by Hoojar
Alansee wrote:There are three Challenge caches in Wollongong which require you to have found every cache within 5, 10, and 20 km of your home. A bit hard for those who live in big cities
And there is a 30km radius cache hidden that I need to get around to putting in the review queue :evil:

I also have the final of my In Extremis series listed as a Challenge cache.

Re: The Future of Caching?

Posted: 21 June 11 1:03 am
by Zalgariath
Hoojar wrote:And there is a 30km radius cache hidden that I need to get around to putting in the review queue :evil:
:shock: From home in Sydney that would be 2,297 caches ... time to move to the outback :P

Re: The Future of Caching?

Posted: 21 June 11 9:45 am
by Hoojar
Zalgariath wrote:
Hoojar wrote:And there is a 30km radius cache hidden that I need to get around to putting in the review queue :evil:
:shock: From home in Sydney that would be 2,297 caches ... time to move to the outback :P
I've got 308 caches within 30km of home. All found (obviously).

I've got 452 active caches within 40km of home, if I find the next 19 I'll get out a 40km radius cache, but I can't see that one happening in the short term. A few years back I had my radius out to 50km, but that's an impossibility these days!

Re: The Future of Caching?

Posted: 21 June 11 11:03 am
by Yurt
We covered 10km a long time ago but some nasty caches have crept back in - the Cipher series. The closest to home is Cipher Seven and we have to solve the first six to solve that one.

20km from home is another 350 caches which is probably doable.
30km from home... probably a number like Zalgariath's.

Re: The Future of Caching?

Posted: 21 June 11 11:34 am
by Bewilderbeest
Hoojar wrote:
Alansee wrote:There are three Challenge caches in Wollongong which require you to have found every cache within 5, 10, and 20 km of your home. A bit hard for those who live in big cities
And there is a 30km radius cache hidden that I need to get around to putting in the review queue :evil:

I also have the final of my In Extremis series listed as a Challenge cache.
I know this is getting OT, but linking back to the What's your radius? topic, I cant even clear a 3km radius!

Having > 500 caches within a 10 km radius gives plenty of opportunities, but also tends to leave a core of problematic caches: Within 10km radius there are 510 caches (93 unfound: 18.24%).

Re: The Future of Caching?

Posted: 21 June 11 1:46 pm
by Trigg-A-Nomics
So have there been any instances of these challenge caches being found and logged without the challenge having been completed? What happens then?

Re: The Future of Caching?

Posted: 21 June 11 3:03 pm
by Hoojar
Trigg-A-Nomics wrote:So have there been any instances of these challenge caches being found and logged without the challenge having been completed? What happens then?
I have had two logs on my challenge caches in error. Once the finder realised the error, and changed their log to a note, then changed back once the challenge was completed. Another time I pointed out the error to the finder and they were very embarrassed for overlooking it and retracted their find log. I have also had several notes posted against the caches when people find the cache and then realise that they have not finished the challenge and therefore cannot claim the find. All in all it has been very smooth sailing and does not appear to have ruffled any feathers nor caused any dramas.

Before I placed them I spoke to Riblit about my plans. He then consulted some other GC Reviewers as he had never reviewed a challenge cache before.

Re: The Future of Caching?

Posted: 21 June 11 5:14 pm
by Laighside Legends
I still don't quite get this...
Why not just create a locationless cache with the challenge as the logging requirement?
These 10km, 20km, ect.. from home caches are in Wollongong, right? Why can't I complete them from South Australia? If I found every cache within 10km of home I am then eligible to log that cache after I have made the 3 day trip to sign the physical logbook? Is there something special at the GZ for these caches? If not then why should I make the 3 day trip there then?

Re: The Future of Caching?

Posted: 21 June 11 5:19 pm
by noikmeister
Laighside Legends wrote:I still don't quite get this...
Why not just create a locationless cache with the challenge as the logging requirement?
These 10km, 20km, ect.. from home caches are in Wollongong, right? Why can't I complete them from South Australia? If I found every cache within 10km of home I am then eligible to log that cache after I have made the 3 day trip to sign the physical logbook? Is there something special at the GZ for these caches? If not then why should I make the 3 day trip there then?
I guess because GC.com doesn't allow locationless caches.

Re: The Future of Caching?

Posted: 21 June 11 5:24 pm
by Hoojar
Laighside Legends wrote:I still don't quite get this...
Why not just create a locationless cache with the challenge as the logging requirement?
Simple answer, I neither hide nor find GCA caches.

Re: The Future of Caching?

Posted: 21 June 11 5:45 pm
by Laighside Legends
Does that mean that someone should set a 10km (and/or 20km) from home challenge cache in Adelaide, someone else should do it in Melbourne and so on, so everyone can complete the challenge no matter where they live? If so then what about the caches who regularly travel around Australia (eg. everlasting, maccamob, ect..), they would soon get many finds for one "challenge".
It doesn't seam right to me... :-k

What it comes down to (I think) is are you creating the cache for the challenge or because GZ is a nice/interesting place to visit? If is for the challenge then there isn't a lot of point in having a box at GZ. If it is because of the GZ location then it should be a traditional or a puzzle/multi cache.

Re: The Future of Caching?

Posted: 21 June 11 5:54 pm
by Philipp
Laighside Legends wrote:..., so everyone can complete the challenge no matter where they live?
Yes but you still have to log the physical box in Adelaide even if you "clean" your homezone in Melbourne.

Re: The Future of Caching?

Posted: 21 June 11 6:01 pm
by Laighside Legends
What I meant was that someone should set one up in Melbourne so there are many of these all over the country

Re: The Future of Caching?

Posted: 22 June 11 1:10 am
by Philipp
Well if someone does that I'll set-up one of those in his front-yard:

Get at least 16 souvenirs in your profile
Find caches on 5 or more of the 7 continents
Cache in 8 or more countries on one continent
Have a found in at least 15 different countries
Find 12 different cache-types
Clear all Distance to Finds ranges
Have 6+ cachetypes as milestones
Find a cache which is more than 15000km from home

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: