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Post by Richary » 30 August 08 9:47 pm

Just saw a cache published with this text:<p>
If you have two hundred or more caches found, please do not log a find on this cache. Your log will be removed. Give beginners a chance please.
<p>Do people agree with that? If the text said "please let people with under 200 finds get the first 3 finds" I could understand it.<p> Banning a large proportion of the cachers in Sydney doesn't seem like a particularly good way to win friends and influence people. Maybe all the people with more than 200 finds could ban that team from finding their caches as a tit for tat measure :twisted:

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Post by svn07 » 30 August 08 10:07 pm

Does seem a bit peculiar. Agree with perhaps for the first few finds...but stopping the +200 crew totally doesn't make it any "easier" for newbies. (perhaps even harder with no geotrail :( )

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Post by ian-and-penny » 30 August 08 10:16 pm

Doesn't seem fair. This cache has a much better idea.

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Post by McPhan » 30 August 08 10:22 pm

Of course you could always put out Premium Member caches. :twisted: (This would have been said in post 2 in the other forum.)

Can't even get it to read first to....

Very strange.

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Post by pjamesk » 30 August 08 11:02 pm

richary wrote:Just saw a cache published with this text:<p>
If you have two hundred or more caches found, please do not log a find on this cache. Your log will be removed. Give beginners a chance please.
<p>Do people agree with that? If the text said "please let people with under 200 finds get the first 3 finds" I could understand it.<p> Banning a large proportion of the cachers in Sydney doesn't seem like a particularly good way to win friends and influence people. Maybe all the people with more than 200 finds could ban that team from finding their caches as a tit for tat measure :twisted:
<p>why would you, for me the more that visit one of my caches the better</P>
<P>out of interest how many caches has this person found :?: </P>

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Post by Richary » 30 August 08 11:26 pm

pjamesk wrote:out of interest how many caches has this person found :?:
<p>Member since June 2001, found 25, hidden 7. They seem to have a had a 5 year break from caching and just recently got back into it.

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Post by zactyl » 31 August 08 12:36 am

There was one of these put out in Sydney, the owner backed down when it was pointed out the cache would forever be annoying people at the top of their unfound caches list.

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Post by Damo. » 31 August 08 1:26 am

Under 200 finds are beginners? Next someone will be suggesting that people should find 1000 caches or so before putting one out themselves.

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Post by CaleD » 31 August 08 9:06 am

Seems odd.

Further, placing a restriction on who can find the cache doesn't actually make it any easier for <200 finds people to find the cache. What does it matter if it has been found by >200 finds cachers? It doesn't make it any harder for <200 finds cachers to get it.

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Post by McPhan » 31 August 08 9:10 am

And is the restriction valid?

Are they beginners because they have less than 200 finds, even though they've been caching for 7 years?

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Post by CraigRat » 31 August 08 9:27 am

Shove it on your ignore list and it won't bother you.

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Post by Big Matt and Shell » 31 August 08 9:46 am

I don't think you can put restrictions like this on a cache. If it was me I would wait for a few logs and then go and find it...

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Post by pjamesk » 31 August 08 11:10 am

I have noticed that it has been diabled / deleted but not archived . and they have justified there reason for less than 200 finds
It doesn't. It makes the game (geocaching) a little easier for me to manage. My experience has been that more established cachers are more difficult to manage. They move the cache, they write me notes TELLING me what I NEED to do to MY cache to make THEM happy, they leap on new caches within hours of publication depriving newbies the thrill of being first to find. They write with incomprehensible acronyms (excluding new cachers again) and they get aggressive when their incomprehensible logs are removed.

In my work and in my life, I focus on helping new people learn new things. My geocaches are, by design, quick and easy finds and I place limits designed to privilege newer cachers. More established players have the experience they need to find more difficult caches in more difficult locations, they don't NEED my caches.


I'm motivated to place the 200-found limit by the experience of placing the Fan Death (GC1F90K) cache.

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Post by Richary » 31 August 08 11:24 am

I wonder if they will stay the same way when they get 200 finds (at this rate it should only take them another 56 years).

Oh well, that's an area of Sydney close to work that I agree needs more caches. I might well place one or two in the area with a different restriction noted.

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Post by Dooghan » 31 August 08 11:49 am

The way I see it, it's there cache, and they can put any restrictions they want. It's the way they want to play the game and I got no problem with it. If you think about it we all put some sort of restriction on our caches. 2 that come to mind are not suitable for the disabled people or kids. I know I've got caches like that. My 2 cents

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