sockpuppet V2.01

Udderchaos · Post by **Udderchaos** » 19 August 08 10:37 pm

http://www.geocaching.com/profile/defau ... 91d1406d72

they are at it again. SBA filling up my inbox

rhinogeo · Post by **rhinogeo** » 19 August 08 11:05 pm

Which caches?

Can't see anything by looking at their sparse GC profile

Big Matt and Shell · Post by **Big Matt and Shell** » 19 August 08 11:14 pm

I don't know why they do it. If I think a cache SBA then I just post a SBA note, about time they stepped up and had the courage to stand behind their convictions.

Post by **caughtatwork** » 19 August 08 11:24 pm

Examples:

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_de ... ?wp=GCW54Q
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_de ... ?wp=GCYEN1
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_de ... ?wp=GCPFZE
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_de ... ?wp=GCJQXY

Groundspeak should really ban these fools.

Papa Bear_Left · Post by **Papa Bear_Left** » 19 August 08 11:35 pm

I'll bet it's really one of the reviewers doing it!

(Just thought I'd get in first!

)

ian-and-penny · Post by **ian-and-penny** » 19 August 08 11:41 pm

caughtatwork wrote:Examples:

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_de ... ?wp=GCW54Q
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_de ... ?wp=GCYEN1
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_de ... ?wp=GCPFZE
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_de ... ?wp=GCJQXY

Groundspeak should really ban these fools.

On the one hand, Groundspeak should give little credence to a SBA with no finds, but. . . don't you think these caches should have been maintained in a timely manner anyway?

If you don't give them any ammunition they can't shoot at you.

Jardry · Post by **Jardry** » 20 August 08 9:13 am

Papa Bear_Left wrote:I'll bet it's really one of the reviewers doing it!

(Just thought I'd get in first! )

Just how many hats do you wear!!!

Groundspeak need to incorporate some checking process so that only cachers with a certain number of hides and/or finds can suggest a cache be archived.

It seems someone has a bee in their bonnet is going through all disabled caches over a certain time period and suggesting they be archived.

team unicycle · Post by **team unicycle** » 20 August 08 9:42 am

Are you lot upset because this person wants to be anonymous, or because they've posted all the SBAs? There are only 35 logs (in SA).
If the logs were against my caches and I disagreed, I'd just delete the logs.
In the end though, this person has done good. A lot of long overdue maintenance (or promises thereof) or archiving has been done as a result.

Incidentally, it's not me - if it was, I'd have logged one against "Unlock The Mystery"

Post by **caughtatwork** » 20 August 08 9:51 am

It's the anonymity that riles me. If you want to place a SBA, do it under your own ID.

Mind you, it's exactly this sort of reaction that prompts people to set up the sockpuppet in fear of being abused.

Udderchaos · Post by **Udderchaos** » 20 August 08 11:39 am

at least calculon had a cool name and avatar. this one is just lame

2dudez · Post by **2dudez** » 20 August 08 12:46 pm

Here we go again !

I think the Calculon and Socko comic strip just got a new character.

Groundspeak could develop any number of ways of reducing sockpuppets:(these are only examples)
* new accounts must be over a week old or have 5 finds before being able to post an SBA
* flag if a user posts more than 5 SBAs in 24 hours .
* An automatic Email or a nag screen when you log in if you have a maintenance request or an unavailable cache for more than 30 days.
* if a cacher has 3 or more caches tagged as "requires maintenance" or unavailable, any new caches submitted are placed on hold and don't go into the reviewers queue until the maintenance is done. Sure, an owner could just mark down a maintenance visit, but in the long run, it will bite you on the butt and you'll only be feeding the puppets

I understand that non-caching commitments, seasonal road closures etc. can be a problem etc, but really there is no excuse for neglecting one that is within a few km's of home that has been missing for 9 months.

The bottom line is that caches need to fixed in a timely manner
However if you are pissed off enough to go on an SBA spree, do it with your own account, post it as a "requires maintenance" first and give your reasons to each cache, not a standard copy+paste note.

My 2cents.

PS. I am NOT Socko, Calculon, Cutter of Code, Bahumut or any other member of the Sock Puppet community

Big Matt and Shell · Post by **Big Matt and Shell** » 20 August 08 2:03 pm

caughtatwork wrote:It's the anonymity that riles me. If you want to place a SBA, do it under your own ID.

Mind you, it's exactly this sort of reaction that prompts people to set up the sockpuppet in fear of being abused.

Me Too.<P>I'm not defending people who do not maintain their caches. There is nothing more frustrating than looking for a cache only to check the logs and the past 5 are DNF's with some previous finders that have checked the cache. Or having a cache close to home continually showing up is searches that can not be found.<P>I fail to understand why people can not log an SBA on their own user name. It is not a bad thing it is just a note that it needs urgent action.

Mr Router · Post by **Mr Router** » 20 August 08 5:23 pm

Papa Bear_Left wrote:I'll bet it's really one of the reviewers doing it!

(Just thought I'd get in first! )

Nothing surprises me these days

Mr Router · Post by **Mr Router** » 20 August 08 5:32 pm

Funny story just bats to mind

This puppet Calculon wrote us a couple of notes ! I wrote back with a quick pull your head in ! These were emails not on the gc pages ! Then strange enough within minutes Riblit had put the caches to rest

Explain that

SecretSquirrel-BJC · Post by **SecretSquirrel-BJC** » 20 August 08 5:45 pm

Another storm in a teacup.

Let's step back and get some perspective.

Chill out and let the sock puppets do their dance whilst you ignore them.

If they post an SBA and it is deserved, then the cache will get archived.

If they feel the need to be anonymous, so what? Is it really a threat to the world as we know it??

Where's that teapot?