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Any interest in a POI file section on this site?

Post by Pesky! » 08 August 07 12:21 pm

Now that many of the GPS devices can load POI's
Is there any merit in having POI files in a forum section ( if possible)?
Is everyone happy getting their POI's from other sites?
Do you generate POI files of your own?
Would you like to share your custom POI's?
Has this been raised before and I'm just catching up?
I'll throw the ball in, lets kick it around a little...
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Post by Dik: » 08 August 07 1:56 pm

I have tried a few POI sites and found them to be pretty much useless, in that the files don't contain what they claim to contain (eg ALL Shell service stations may have 50% in some states and 0% in others) or the data is out of date (50% of the Shell service stations shown have been closed down for over 12 months)

I have created some POIs for myself although they are usually only of use to me (eg my clients)

But sharing of POIs amongst cachers would be a good idea as we have common interests.

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Post by Postman Pat » 08 August 07 3:21 pm

Another problem would be that you could have different generations of he same file for example speed cameras(taking up space). It would need someone to coordinate the files eg one person to handle the uploading of the files then anybody could download the latest files.

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Post by ian-and-penny » 08 August 07 3:21 pm

Dik: wrote:I have tried a few POI sites and found them to be pretty much useless, in that the files don't contain what they claim to contain (eg ALL Shell service stations may have 50% in some states and 0% in others) or the data is out of date (50% of the Shell service stations shown have been closed down for over 12 months).
Like Dik, I have had a similar experience.

I am interested in developing an accurate POI file for BP servos. (If anyone has, or can obtain, a complete address listing of every BP servo in Aust, then I'm prepared to give it a go.) Without the listing, I would welcome any feedback and/or comments etc on the best way to go about it.

Once that's complete I may have a go at one for Shell, but as I currently get a 10% discount at BP you will understand where my priorities lie.

Cheers

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Post by Pesky! » 08 August 07 6:16 pm

Yes, i guess it would be good if the files were in some form of collaborative editable format.. does that exsist?

someplace that you could add or remove a submitted poi without having to republish the version of the file.
something like a hybrid of waymarking.com and Geocaching, where you could do queries to a POI file or GPX format.

Hmmm. some more thinking and searching is required....

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Post by riblit » 08 August 07 6:26 pm

Pesky! wrote:Yes, i guess it would be good if the files were in some form of collaborative editable format.. does that exsist?

someplace that you could add or remove a submitted poi without having to republish the version of the file.
something like a hybrid of waymarking.com and Geocaching, where you could do queries to a POI file or GPX format.

Hmmm. some more thinking and searching is required....
The data could be kept on a database and the POI files created as needed.
As long as the database is kept up to date it would work.

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Post by Mr Router » 08 August 07 7:09 pm

Generally we make our own poi's but have found lots on the net.
It would be ok to include info here in a topic !

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Post by tronador » 08 August 07 9:51 pm

excuse my ignorance but what is a POI?

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Post by Knot_gillty » 08 August 07 11:02 pm

Point Of Interest.

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Post by Pesky! » 09 August 07 11:12 am

I am interested in developing an accurate POI file for BP servos.
Ian
have a look here, You may already have their BP list, but it may help you get started, if it is not comprehensive,or up to date.

http://www.gps-data-team.com/poi/australia/petrol/

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Post by Pesky! » 09 August 07 11:57 am

tronador wrote:excuse my ignorance but what is a POI?
POI's or Points Of Interest, are just another form of Waypoint that can be used by many gpsr's Navigation computers ,and now even mobile phones that have the Nav systems in them.

These POI's are location that GPS users might find useful, i.e Petrol Stations, Post Offices, Restaurants, theaters, Shops, Beaches, Hospitals, and so on. most of the navigation computers come with a database of POI's in them, however these lists may not be comprehensive, and often users may have locations they want to list of their own.
You can create your own Custom POI's and load them, or find a list of relevant ones from websites etc.

Have a browse of this site

http://www.gps-data-team.com/poi/

They have heaps of lists of POI files,
and it may turn out that this site is a better option than setting up our own support lists.

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Post by Pesky! » 09 August 07 12:37 pm

I may have found a method of sharing POI's ( and just about anything else you you could put in a document)

Google docs. ( http://docs.google.com)

This site allows sharing of files, to invited collaborators, and the option to view file publicly ( as i have done below)
It is a full on spreadsheet system ,and also allows documents like Word PDf etc. You can upload to the site, or f needed, as in our case, download the Spreadsheet in several formats: xls, csv, txt and even open office for those with Linux/macs. you would then have to process the CSV file with your format converter and uploader for your particular GPS device.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key= ... ZfElgz_kTQ

the only drawback is that you have to invite people to use the documents, and if they have not got a Google account they have to register with google the email address that you invite them with. Once that is out of the way you get full access to modify the sheet, and can log in at any time to modify and add. There is an option to have view only access if the document requires strict management. its a bit like the Geocaching wiki, there is a trail of changes and so on so mistakes can be reversed.
and multiple sheets on one document, or multiple documents are possible, all for gratis, free, nada, nix!

So if you are interested, let me know the Email address you would like to access the Google docs with. and we can experiment and test.

I guess it would be best if we maintained a central repository for these, so at some stage if this takes off, a central address of some type would be better than using an individuals account. I'm happy to let it run on my Google docs for now, until it passes acceptance testing! :P
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Post by Mr Router » 09 August 07 5:44 pm

Pesky! wrote:
I am interested in developing an accurate POI file for BP servos.
Ian
have a look here, You may already have their BP list, but it may help you get started, if it is not comprehensive,or up to date.

http://www.gps-data-team.com/poi/australia/petrol/
Thats a good site! ah Pesky you've done it again ! :D

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Post by Pesky! » 09 August 07 7:36 pm

tronador wrote:excuse my ignorance but what is a POI?
These are POI dancers...
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from NZ

This is POI ( some form of food?) from Hawaii
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These POI glow in the dark...
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like this
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However, none of these are the poi we are talking about...
:P :twisted:
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Post by Rabbitto » 09 August 07 7:41 pm

No cache. No POI.
Cache. POI.
Solved.

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