Bingo - The moving cache race for 2012/2013

[caughtatwork]

I joined the game on the cachinggames site, and only realised after joining that you only get a game card if you hide a cache. Yesterday morning I released a cache as part of the game and it had the bingo tag, but I didn't realise until now that on the cachinggames website I had to also "create" the cache on there for it to be listed and get a game card.

So, now I have a game card, but none of the caches I moved yesterday have been ticked off on my card. I don't see anything in the rules about having to move the caches after you get your game card. Is this something that can be fixed? I tried editing my 'move' log from yesterday and re-saving it, but it doesn't seem to have helped.

Your caching name is R0gue.
You are entered into the game as Rogue.
In order to match the finds and moves, I match against the cacher name.
Go to member services http://cachinggames.test/members/index.php
Click Edit Your Details (or use this direct link) http://cachinggames.test/members/edit.php
Update your name to R0gue rather than Rogue
That will align your names and the next update will fix the missing card numbers.

[caughtatwork]

Ok now i have a technical problem.

I have #87 on two of my cards, yet i've found (and moved) GA4887. It still hasnt ticked it off. Help?

Mr Roo did not have any starting co-ords on his publish log. This means I can't tell where the cache was when you first found it. That means I can't calculate a distance.
Please give me the co-ords of where you found it and I'll update his publish log.
That should fix your issue.

[caughtatwork]

Ok now i have a technical problem.

I have #87 on two of my cards, yet i've found (and moved) GA4887. It still hasnt ticked it off. Help?

You have moved one of those caches that do not have coordinates on the publish logs. I looked up the cache on my initial download of all the moveables and the orginal coordinate was S35° 11.391 E149° 02.002 so if you ask caughtatwork to put that in the publish log it should correct everything.

Have done so. Thanks Chwiliwr.

[DG Tas]

I've already found and moved a pushbike today. I'm still saying no for whole cars but hub caps are fair game lol

We found and moved our biggest cache ever, I think it would be pretty fair to say it was bigger than a pushbike! But Im not saying anything more till after the race, then will have photo's to put up!

The caches we have found this weekend have been awesome! Some, including our own, have pushed to the outer limits of the transport theme!

[CraigRat]

I've already found and moved a pushbike today. I'm still saying no for whole cars but hub caps are fair game lol

We found and moved our biggest cache ever, I think it would be pretty fair to say it was bigger than a pushbike! But Im not saying anything more till after the race, then will have photo's to put up!

The caches we have found this weekend have been awesome! Some, including our own, have pushed to the outer limits of the transport theme!

I'm glad you moved it, I would have gone crazy with it staying near my place..... mind you, it's still the closest one to me in a straight line................

[Bronnie_1990]

I've already found and moved a pushbike today. I'm still saying no for whole cars but hub caps are fair game lol

Wait, someone else hid a bike? Excellent!!!

[pjmpjm]

I've already found and moved a pushbike today. I'm still saying no for whole cars but hub caps are fair game lol

Wait, someone else hid a bike?

Gee, I really hope so! Otherwise I just stole some kid's pushbike outside of Springwood Station . . .

[Cheesy pigs]

You want to make it easy on yourself and just email me your details?

[nutwood]

I'm glad you moved it, I would have gone crazy with it staying near my place..... mind you, it's still the closest one to me in a straight line................

It'll be back....

[Rogue]

I joined the game on the cachinggames site, and only realised after joining that you only get a game card if you hide a cache. Yesterday morning I released a cache as part of the game and it had the bingo tag, but I didn't realise until now that on the cachinggames website I had to also "create" the cache on there for it to be listed and get a game card.

So, now I have a game card, but none of the caches I moved yesterday have been ticked off on my card. I don't see anything in the rules about having to move the caches after you get your game card. Is this something that can be fixed? I tried editing my 'move' log from yesterday and re-saving it, but it doesn't seem to have helped.

Your caching name is R0gue.
You are entered into the game as Rogue.
In order to match the finds and moves, I match against the cacher name.
Go to member services http://cachinggames.test/members/index.php
Click Edit Your Details (or use this direct link) http://cachinggames.test/members/edit.php
Update your name to R0gue rather than Rogue
That will align your names and the next update will fix the missing card numbers.

YAY! That is awesome, thanks heaps C@W!
I thought it was going to pick it up off my GCA name which is Rogue, but my GC name is R0gue. All fixed now

[quiet1_au]

So, there's been a hubcap sitting in the nature strip near my house for the last...month and a bit.

Is it wrong to attach a bison tube, and go publish it?

I've already found and moved one only it had a film cannister glued on. I thought it was rather good - and one you can just about hide in plain sight too.

If it's been there for days, I say it's OK - it it's "fresh" give the owner a chance to back-track and recover it first. I've seen a couple around the roads but have enough caches to keep up with this race....

[gmj3191]

Is there a trap in the publish process which is causing these issues with the initial location?
As far as I can see, you put the location in when the cache is created.
Do you need to put it in again when it is published?

The initial location with these problem caches is there, and they are being found initially, so it could it be a bug?

[caughtatwork]

Is there a trap in the publish process which is causing these issues with the initial location?
As far as I can see, you put the location in when the cache is created.
Do you need to put it in again when it is published?

The initial location with these problem caches is there, and they are being found initially, so it could it be a bug?

Yes, there is a trap. One that I don't think we've encountered before.
When a moveable cache is published the co-ords from the cache page are transferred to the published log.
If there were no co-ords (say the cache was still set at 0 and 0), then no co-ords go to the published log.
This gives the distance calculations a starting point.
If the cache is published and then the co-ords on the cache page are updated, the published log remains unchanged.
All new co-ords are done via logs for moveables.
As such, any subsequent log which doesn't have new co-ords (say a note or DNF), the cache is updated with the latest co-ords from the log.
As these are "wrong" if it's the published log and the cache co-ords have been changed, the cache reverts back to the published log co-ords.

So what I am going to do is:
If you edit the cache co-ords after it has been published, I will update the published log to contain the new co-ords.
If you publish a moveable cache with no co-ords set on the cache page, I'll throw an error.
If you remove the co-ords from the published log, I'll thrown an error.

That should hopefully avoid this trap in the future.

I have to admit, I didn't think of these scenarios. I always expected that people would input the final correct co-ords and then publish. I never expected anyone to publish at 0,0 or change the co-ords after it was published. We have tried to let people be as flexible with updating details as possible. i.e. Not restrict what you can do. It appears that in the case of publishing moveables, this was not a wise idea, so we'll add some code to "lock down" what you can and can't do and hopefully that will avoid some of the traps.

[GJMMelb]

Is there a trap in the publish process which is causing these issues with the initial location?
As far as I can see, you put the location in when the cache is created.
Do you need to put it in again when it is published?

The initial location with these problem caches is there, and they are being found initially, so it could it be a bug?

Yes, there is a trap. One that I don't think we've encountered before.
When a moveable cache is published the co-ords from the cache page are transferred to the published log.
If there were no co-ords (say the cache was still set at 0 and 0), then no co-ords go to the published log.
This gives the distance calculations a starting point.
If the cache is published and then the co-ords on the cache page are updated, the published log remains unchanged.
All new co-ords are done via logs for moveables.
As such, any subsequent log which doesn't have new co-ords (say a note or DNF), the cache is updated with the latest co-ords from the log.
As these are "wrong" if it's the published log and the cache co-ords have been changed, the cache reverts back to the published log co-ords.

So what I am going to do is:
If you edit the cache co-ords after it has been published, I will update the published log to contain the new co-ords.
If you publish a moveable cache with no co-ords set on the cache page, I'll throw an error.
If you remove the co-ords from the published log, I'll thrown an error.

That should hopefully avoid this trap in the future.

I have to admit, I didn't think of these scenarios. I always expected that people would input the final correct co-ords and then publish. I never expected anyone to publish at 0,0 or change the co-ords after it was published. We have tried to let people be as flexible with updating details as possible. i.e. Not restrict what you can do. It appears that in the case of publishing moveables, this was not a wise idea, so we'll add some code to "lock down" what you can and can't do and hopefully that will avoid some of the traps.

Sorry C@W ... In our case it was a case of being excited and wanting to get Bingo Cards so created the cache pages so we could do that and put in a publish log at the same time without the cache actually even been bought yet in a couple of cases lolol, so definately not hidden. Next year we will make sure it's hidden before creating the future publish log. With the Gnomes we started after the 1 Dec so didnt have that prob and with the frogs we hid them before creating the pages.... As you say we live and learn!!

[quiet1_au]

I've already found and moved a pushbike today. I'm still saying no for whole cars but hub caps are fair game lol

Wait, someone else hid a bike? Excellent!!!

As I headed out and returned from grabbing 3 Bingo caches at morning tea time, I spotted a little tricycle and a child's bike or two across the road. Hmm I thought, maybe I should nab the trike for a payback cache (I have a large Bingo sitting in my boot at the moment). Come lunchtime though, they'd gone.... I wonder........