GCA Archiving - A proposal and debate.
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GCA Archiving - A proposal and debate.
A proposal for debate in the senate without notice.
With all the hoohaa going on with the two new cache police members and the archiving of caches from GCA it opens a question to the senate.
GCA is no rules.
That does mean that abandoned or muggled and not maintained caches will remain in the system for ever.
Should we, as a community, lead by our senate, consider an automated method for dealing with caches that should, for all intents and purposes, be archived?
eg.
1 month after a cache is marked as temporarily unavailable, an email is sent to the owner requesting action.
2 months after, a reminder.
3 months after, the cache is automatically archived by the system.
The beauty of GCA is that the owner can at any time, unarchive the cache without permission or intervention by an "appropriate authority".
Another eg.
Same scenario as above, but change temporarily unavailable with SBA.
The first scenario is for active members of the community.
The second would be for caches where the community member may have moved on and has not set the cache to temporarily unavailable.
This is a change in direction for GCA as it would no longer be strictly no rules, but would allow the system to help keep itself clean while still allowing owners to make changes to their cache as needed.
As it's a change in direction, the senate should provide the guidance and governance on these types of questions.
Contributions from people who actively hide / seek caches at GCA will have louder voices in this debate.
Please commence the debate.
With all the hoohaa going on with the two new cache police members and the archiving of caches from GCA it opens a question to the senate.
GCA is no rules.
That does mean that abandoned or muggled and not maintained caches will remain in the system for ever.
Should we, as a community, lead by our senate, consider an automated method for dealing with caches that should, for all intents and purposes, be archived?
eg.
1 month after a cache is marked as temporarily unavailable, an email is sent to the owner requesting action.
2 months after, a reminder.
3 months after, the cache is automatically archived by the system.
The beauty of GCA is that the owner can at any time, unarchive the cache without permission or intervention by an "appropriate authority".
Another eg.
Same scenario as above, but change temporarily unavailable with SBA.
The first scenario is for active members of the community.
The second would be for caches where the community member may have moved on and has not set the cache to temporarily unavailable.
This is a change in direction for GCA as it would no longer be strictly no rules, but would allow the system to help keep itself clean while still allowing owners to make changes to their cache as needed.
As it's a change in direction, the senate should provide the guidance and governance on these types of questions.
Contributions from people who actively hide / seek caches at GCA will have louder voices in this debate.
Please commence the debate.
As the owner can reverse the action any time and as there is no proximity rule so a new cache will not stop reactivation I have no problem with any of this. At the end of the day it's not really establishing a rule so much as a process. If possible give people the option to turn off "automatic archiving" for there account, they could still get reminders.
I'm all for "Free and Open" but I think as cache placers we have some responsibility for what we are putting out there.
If a cache has been abandoned by the placer and is in severe need of maintenance what use is it to anyone. In some cases the community will step up but some caches are not worth it.
I think putting something in place to clear out the garbage is the responsible thing to do.
Making it automated will take the heat off our volunteers as well as hopefully giving people an incentive to fix the caches involved.
If a cache has been abandoned by the placer and is in severe need of maintenance what use is it to anyone. In some cases the community will step up but some caches are not worth it.
I think putting something in place to clear out the garbage is the responsible thing to do.
Making it automated will take the heat off our volunteers as well as hopefully giving people an incentive to fix the caches involved.
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I agree. I think is should be after a SBA log though.
Regular cachers will police the SBA's and if there is no responce from the owner, then archive them. Further to this, if the SBA message bounces from the registered email account, then archive immediately.
If it's all undo-able then there should be no concerns.
Regular cachers will police the SBA's and if there is no responce from the owner, then archive them. Further to this, if the SBA message bounces from the registered email account, then archive immediately.
If it's all undo-able then there should be no concerns.
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As a GCA hider I have no objection, it's not like the cache is deleted (which is why I can't really understand some of the complaints with the recent events on GC....)
I don't see it as anything other than database maintenance, as Mix said, it doesn't effect anything with regards to proximity or anything......
I don't see it as anything other than database maintenance, as Mix said, it doesn't effect anything with regards to proximity or anything......
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What if it's got 6 DNF and 3 SBA, yet is still "active" because the cacher has moved on?CraigRat wrote:I wouldn't support even the notion of auto disabling of active caches in any way... it starts to veer the direction of this site in a direction I wouldn't be too keen on going...
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Sure, if the SBA has been responded to with a Maintained, then I'm with you. It's also how we feel about abandoned listings that are still nominally active yet are also probably no longer there.
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The owner of this "cache" might not like that approachPostman Pat wrote:Could it also be set to trigger when it get a number of DNF's a realistic number say 2 which would also give the owner a chance to get the Cache looked at if he or she is unavailable.
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